The Sealed Temple = Temple of Time? - Zelda Universe Forums (2024)

I think it's a strong possibility the Sealed Temple eventually becomes the Temple of Time. Anyone else agree? When you take the side rooms/areas out of the Sealed Temple and have just the main room, it's built similarly to the Temple of Time in Ocarina of Time. Also, the Sealed Temple held the Gate of Time, which transports Link through time, just as the Temple of Time does. I know some people are probably saying "Duh!" but still. :lol:

To create more discussion, what are some other areas in Skyward Sword that you can link to other locations in other Zelda games? Besides the obvious Eldin Volcano/Death Mountain?

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聖地にある光の神殿へと続く唯一の入口。太古の時代、砂漠にあった神殿と同名であるが、ラウル に造られた神 殿の埸所は、封印の神殿があった埸所にあたると思われる。
The only enterance to the Temple of Light, which is in the Holy Land. In ancient times, there was a temple which had the same name; but the location in which Rauru built the temple was where the temple of the seal was thought to be.

And Temple of Time = Sacred Grove :DD

idgi, because the map from SS and OoT are fairly similar, pretty much the same thing really, so you'd think that the Temple of Time would be further to the north, closer to where Eldin Volcano is...

Idk, I guess the area where the sealed grounds is could move further to the north with earth's ground movements and stuff. That's how I view it at least Still a bit weird imo though.

Its all the same area. And how would an entire land locked area move?

EDIT: Just think about Hyrule as one big map, and in different eras the capital is somewhere else.

After all, there's evidence Hyrule shrinks in the backstory of ALttP. Hyrule's borders just change over time.

Also worth noting that Ocarina of Time implies that the Temple of Time is Zelda's designated temple, just like the temples where you find the other sages.

Hyrule Historia revealed the Temple of Time was only physically built many, many years after the events of Skyward Sword during an era of chaos. It was built shortly before Hyrule Kingdom was established, built over the ruins of the Temple of Hylia. By the time the Temple of Hylia is built, the Temple of Hylia would most likely be in a state as bad as the former temple was during Twilight Princess.

It should be noted that the location of the Temple of Hylia coincides with that of where the Temple of Time is officially located: they are both directly to the west of Faron Woods but still within the woods. It is safe to assume Rauru, being one of the Ancient Sages, resided in the Temple of Hylia during the Era of the Goddess Hylia, so it would only be fitting for him and the other Ancient Sages to build a new temple over the remains of the old one.

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Also worth noting that Ocarina of Time implies that the Temple of Time is Zelda's designated temple, just like the temples where you find the other sages.

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D'oh, I didn't even think of that, despite sometimes calling Zelda the Sage of Time.

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It should be noted that the location of the Temple of Hylia coincides with that of where the Temple of Time is officially located: they are both directly to the west of Faron Woods but still within the woods. It is safe to assume Rauru, being one of the Ancient Sages, resided in the Temple of Hylia during the Era of the Goddess Hylia, so it would only be fitting for him and the other Ancient Sages to build a new temple over the remains of the old one.

So, just to be clear, are you saying that Rauru was off somewhere during SS? Dude's older than the Great Deku Tree. :lol:

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So, just to be clear, are you saying that Rauru was off somewhere during SS? Dude's older than the Great Deku Tree. :lol:

Yes, I am. As we know, this is also the case in The Minish Cap and Four Swords, where he is hiding within the Temple of Light the entire time and doesn't reveal himself until the events of Ocarina of Time. The symbols of the Ancient Sages including Rauru's Light Medallion can be seen on the Temple of Hylia, built thousands of years before the events of Skyward Sword. He would have been involved with the forging of the Goddess Sword with the other Ancient Sages. Nothing is know of where he was and what he was doing until many years after Skyward Sword. I often wonder myself where the Ancient Sages are hiding for all those years.

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Its all the same area. And how would an entire land locked area move?

EDIT: Just think about Hyrule as one big map, and in different eras the capital is somewhere else.

After all, there's evidence Hyrule shrinks in the backstory of ALttP. Hyrule's borders just change over time.

How do you explain the Temple of Time being further to the south, when in OoT we see it much further to the north, basically bordering the area of Death Mountain?

The only explanation I can think of is the game designers not being that bothered to make the maps exactly the same, cuz it'd seem all too familiar, or, as we can't really get from one place to another by foot in SS, we can assume that maybe the major land marks are still not joined together completely, and that there is open space between them, thus allowing them to move around by natural land movements.

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I think it's a strong possibility the Sealed Temple eventually becomes the Temple of Time. Anyone else agree? When you take the side rooms/areas out of the Sealed Temple and have just the main room, it's built similarly to the Temple of Time in Ocarina of Time. Also, the Sealed Temple held the Gate of Time, which transports Link through time, just as the Temple of Time does. I know some people are probably saying "Duh!" but still. :lol:

To create more discussion, what are some other areas in Skyward Sword that you can link to other locations in other Zelda games? Besides the obvious Eldin Volcano/Death Mountain?

I thought we already talked about this. It is in fat the same temple. It is the only ToT in SS.

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Yes, I am. As we know, this is also the case in The Minish Cap and Four Swords, where he is hiding within the Temple of Light the entire time and doesn't reveal himself until the events of Ocarina of Time. The symbols of the Ancient Sages including Rauru's Light Medallion can be seen on the Temple of Hylia, built thousands of years before the events of Skyward Sword. He would have been involved with the forging of the Goddess Sword with the other Ancient Sages. Nothing is know of where he was and what he was doing until many years after Skyward Sword. I often wonder myself where the Ancient Sages are hiding for all those years.

Does the Sacred Realm exist in SS (and thus, the Temple of Light)?
There's no mention of it, plus the fact that from what I understand, the place where the Triforce lays in future games is the Sacred Realm, but in SS, it's in Skyloft, as if the Sacred Realm was still not created to protect the Triforce.

I've heard theories that people say that where you fight may be the Sacred Realm, which has it's reasons, such as it resembling descriptions, and becoming a dark place when Demise is in it. Plus the fact that he tells Link it'll be his tomb for eternity... But how did Demise enter the Sacred Realm so easily in the final battle with Link?

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The Temple of Time was constructed in the Sealed grounds over the original Temple of Hylia, enshrining the Master Sword. The Master Sword, as the Sword of Time (stated in OoT) activates the dormant Gate of Time in the Sealed grounds to enable time travel, with the Sword as a key, and the area where the gate once stood as the Lock.

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The Temple of Time was constructed in the Sealed grounds over the original Temple of Hylia, enshrining the Master Sword. The Master Sword, as the Sword of Time (stated in OoT) activates the dormant Gate of Time in the Sealed grounds to enable time travel, with the Sword as a key, and the area where the gate once stood as the Lock.

Oh right, that image shows it pretty well I guess. I hadn't seen the Volcano in SS from that point of view

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The Temple of Time was constructed in the Sealed grounds over the original Temple of Hylia, enshrining the Master Sword. The Master Sword, as the Sword of Time (stated in OoT) activates the dormant Gate of Time in the Sealed grounds to enable time travel, with the Sword as a key, and the area where the gate once stood as the Lock.

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SWEEET, but who is the dude?

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How do you explain the Temple of Time being further to the south, when in OoT we see it much further to the north, basically bordering the area of Death Mountain?

The only explanation I can think of is the game designers not being that bothered to make the maps exactly the same, cuz it'd seem all too familiar, or, as we can't really get from one place to another by foot in SS, we can assume that maybe the major land marks are still not joined together completely, and that there is open space between them, thus allowing them to move around by natural land movements.

In Hyrule Historia, referring to Ocarina of Time, said that the capital was founded in the center and Hyrule expanded north from the castle, as well.

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Does the Sacred Realm exist in SS (and thus, the Temple of Light)?
There's no mention of it, plus the fact that from what I understand, the place where the Triforce lays in future games is the Sacred Realm, but in SS, it's in Skyloft, as if the Sacred Realm was still not created to protect the Triforce.

I've heard theories that people say that where you fight may be the Sacred Realm, which has it's reasons, such as it resembling descriptions, and becoming a dark place when Demise is in it. Plus the fact that he tells Link it'll be his tomb for eternity... But how did Demise enter the Sacred Realm so easily in the final battle with Link?

I don't think there is any major evidence either way for if the Sacred Realm existing during the events of Skyward Sword, but the existence of the Ancient Sages would imply the Temple of Light exists, which would mean the Sacred Realm exists by default. Some people believe the Silent Realms are the Sacred Realm, seeing as they're mirror worlds and the Triforce was hidden there.

I don't remember whether not it was said Demise created the world you fight in, but I can't imagine him creating the Sacred Realm or accessing it so easily.

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The Temple of Time was constructed in the Sealed grounds over the original Temple of Hylia, enshrining the Master Sword. The Master Sword, as the Sword of Time (stated in OoT) activates the dormant Gate of Time in the Sealed grounds to enable time travel, with the Sword as a key, and the area where the gate once stood as the Lock.

The issue with suggesting that the Temple of Time in Ocarina of Time is not canonically located in the southern forests of Hyrule is the fact that the Faron Woods mysteriously disappears from all around the temple and then all reappears around the temple in Twilight Princess. In Skyward Sword and Ocarina of Time, it's deep within Faron Woods and to the left of the area. In Ocarina of Time, it's near the centre of Hyrule, north of Hyrule's forested area. It would seem this logic suggests that the woods were destroyed, leaving a town around the temple and empty field, and then the people of Hyrule moved north and the woods grew back.

I would prefer to think it was simply a retcon and what the Temple of Time was always in the forest, as is the case in A Link to the Past, originally going to be the case in Ocarina of Time, Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword. I seems clearly intended that the temple is only in the market for gameplay reasons, but it doesn't have any barring on the storyline if it's canonically located in the southern forests. I don't think any story reference is ever made to the temple being in a market, only references have been made to it being in the forest from a story perspective.

More issues with this logic is that I highly doubt Faron would honestly let people destroy Faron Woods all so they could build a little market near the temple. She would have been enraged.